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Getting Caught Up: ORU, God is NOT on our side, 8 dollar hot dogs

05 Oct

While preaching sermons, running back and forth to soccer practice & games, installing sinks and screen doors at the house and hosting all sorts of family in town…life has been going on. I have been jotting down a slew of thoughts to blog on and finally I have a chance to post ’em. Here we go in no specific order.

ORU and ORU President Richard Roberts get Sued

A friend emailed me with this link: ORU faces Lawsuit. Three professors are suing the school and many of the officials for wrongful termination. They said they were fired after refusing to take the blame for ORU’s assistance in a local political campaign. More disturbing to me than the allegations of political campaigning is the list of alleged financial improprieties by Richard and Lindsay Roberts. The thirteen page suit lists several allegations including multiple instances where the Roberts have used school resources for personal uses. I am trying to reserve judgment. I am an ORU alum and I have donated to the alumni association over the years and I feel that I have a vested interest in the allegations.

Richard Roberts has said that the former professors are interested in money. In a chapel service he told the ORU campus: “Some may think that I might ought to hang my head in shame, but I won’t do that. I am confident that when the real truth is known, there will be no more questions.” (Source: Tulsa World) I hope that the real truth in this matter comes to the surface. Roberts should answer all the questions that are raised in the suit. If he doesn’t offer an explanation to the allegations , then the board of regents should require that he does so. I cannot find a list of the board of regents anywhere on the ORU website. I have emailed the alumni director at ORU for a complete list of the board, but I have not received a response. I am cautiously waiting.

God is not on our side

I added The Times They are A-Changin’ (1964)to my Dylan collection last week. The songs are filled with the anti-war and civil rights vibrations of the 60s. This pure folk album was Dylan’s third studio recording. I was particularly drawn to the song “With God on Our Side.” A much covered tune by other folk singers in the 60s, singers like Joan Baez. The song is not so much a protest song or an anti-war song. It is also not a theological slap in the face of God himself. The song undermines people’s tendency to artificially bring God into our agendas whether political or otherwise and give some kind of moral justification to our agenda. This song should remind us of the tragic foolishness of claiming that God can be on our side. God transcends much more than we think. We should seek to be on his side, rather than pulling him down and forcing him into our camp. God cannot be brought into our agenda, because God is no thing. He is not a thing or an object. The is the great I AM. The holy self-existent maker of heaven and earth. How could I ever claim with moral superiority that God is on my side? Jesus says to seek first the kingdom of God. The kingdom is God’s agenda. The kingdom is God’s side. I am on a journey, exploring that kingdom.

Here are the lyrics:

With God on Our Side
Bob Dylan

Oh my name it is nothin’
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I’s taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.

Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.

Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I’s made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.

Oh the First World War, boys
It closed out its fate
The reason for fighting
I never got straight
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don’t count the dead
When God’s on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I’ve learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war starts
It’s them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we’re forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God’s on your side.

In a many dark hour
I’ve been thinkin’ about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can’t think for you
You’ll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I’m leavin’
I’m weary as Hell
The confusion I’m feelin’
Ain’t no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God’s on our side
He’ll stop the next war.

Eight Dollar Hot Dog

I am missing two conferences this week. My boys have fall break and so I am spending this week at home. I turned down opportunities to travel to two different conferences. I could not have done both, but they were conferences I was interested in. Brian Zahnd is hosting his annual leaders conference this week on the theme of A New Way to Be Human — the New Humanity. (Check out the cool YouTube video preview)

I also missed the Catalyst Conference in Atlanta. Two of my pastor friends and I were going to go up there together, but I had to say no. I am not bitter…really. There is always another conference! Anyway, I have been getting updates from Todd Rhoades on Monday Morning Insight (MMI). He had posted a youtube video clip used by Chris Seay in Chris’ presentation on consumerism in the church. It is well-done and a griping reflection on poverty and prosperity. Here is the video:

The last thought for the day comes from G.K. Chesterton:
The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried.

May we not shrink and turn back on the way that is narrow and difficult. May we not fall into the ruts of consumerism, materialism or intellectualism.

That is my prayer today.

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Posted by on October 5, 2007 in Life, Theology

 

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2 responses to “Getting Caught Up: ORU, God is NOT on our side, 8 dollar hot dogs

  1. Anonymous

    October 7, 2007 at 8:46 am

    Here’s a list of Regents– However, Pastor Billy Joe Daugherty was “removed” from his position at the end of June 2007. Must not have been in Richard’s pocket…

    Here is the most up to date list of the Regents I could find. It was from spring of 07, of course in light of the events from the last few months, it has changed somewhat, but it is a start.
    – Mrs. Karen Arutunoff

    Entrepreneur

    Business Regent

    – Mr. James M. Blanchett

    Retired Construction Company Owner

    Regent Emeritus

    – Mr. Michael Cardone, Jr.

    President – Auto Manufacturing Company

    Cardone Industries, Inc.

    Associate Regent

    – Reverend Kenneth Copeland

    Minister

    Kenneth Copeland Ministries

    Business Regent

    – Dr. Scott Cordray

    Surgical Physician

    Oasis Nasal Spray and Wash

    Business Regent

    – Reverend Billy Joe Daugherty

    Minister

    Victory Christian Center

    Business Regent

    – Mr. David Del Zotto

    Businessman – Construction Company

    Lino Del Zotto & Son Builders, Inc.

    Regent Emeritus

    – Reverend Creflo A. Dollar

    Minister

    World Changers Church International

    Business Regent

    – Reverend Jesse G. Duplantis

    Minister

    Jesse Duplantis Ministries

    Business Regent

    – Reverend Ulf Ekman

    President

    Livets Ord University

    Sweden

    Associate Regent

    – Mr. Richard Fenimore

    President

    Trinity Chemical Industries

    Business Regent

    – Reverend Charles Green

    Minister

    Faith Church, Founding Pastor

    Harvest Ministries, President

    Chairman-Executive Committee

    Business Regent

    – Reverend John C. Hagee

    Minister

    Cornerstone Church

    John Hagee Ministries

    Business Regent

    – Mr. Michael A. Hammer

    Businessman – Chairman of Board

    Armand Hammer Foundation

    Business Regent

    – Reverend Marilyn Hickey

    Minister

    Marilyn Hickey Ministries

    Chairman of Board

    Business Regent

    – Dr. I.V. Hilliard

    Minister

    New Light Christian Center

    Business Regent

    Reverend Benny Hinn

    Minister

    World Healing Center Church

    Business Regent

    – Mr. Frank Holder

    Retired Businessman

    Griffin-Holder Co.

    Regent Emeritus

    – Mr. Barry Hon

    Real Estate Developer

    Hon Development

    Business Regent

    – Reverend Ozro T. Jones, Jr.

    Minister

    Holy Temple Church of God in Christ

    Regent Emeritus

    – Reverend Terry Law

    Minister

    Terry Law Ministries

    World Compassion

    Regent Emeritus

    – Reverend John Meares

    Minister

    Evangel Church

    Regent Emeritus

    – Jere D. Melilli, M.D.

    Medical Physician

    The Family Clinic

    Christian Life Fellowship

    Regent Emeritus

    – Dr. Myles Munroe Minister

    Bahamas Faith Ministries International

    Business Regent

    – Glenda Payas, D.M.D.

    Dentist

    Business Regent

    – Mr. Richard Pearson

    Businessman

    – Pearson Bus Sales Ltd.

    Regent Emeritus

    – Reverend George Pearsons

    Minister

    Eagle Mountain International Church

    Vice Chairman & Business Regent

    – Henry Penix

    Entrepreneur

    Henry Penix Ministries

    Business Regent

    – Bishop Michael S.B. Reid

    Minister

    Peniel Pentecostal Church

    Associate Regent

    – Evelyn Roberts (1917 – 2005)

    Minister

    Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association

    Lifetime Spiritual Trustee

    Oral Roberts University

    Lifetime Spiritual Regent

    – Lindsay Roberts

    Minister and Executive Vice President

    Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association

    Lifetime Spiritual Trustee

    Oral Roberts University

    Lifetime Spiritual Regent

    – G. Oral Roberts

    Minister and Chairman Emeritus

    Oral Roberts Evangelistic Association

    Lifetime Spiritual Trustee

    Founder and Chancellor

    Oral Roberts University

    Lifetime Spiritual Regent

    – Richard Roberts, M.A., D.Min., D.D.

    Chairman and CEO

    79. 10/4/2007 11:54:16 AM, . ,
    List cont.
    – Reverend Jerry Savelle

    Minister

    Jerry Savelle Ministries International

    Business Regent

    – Reverend Bill Scheer

    Minister

    Guts Ministries, Inc.

    Business Regent

    – Reverend Karl D. Strader

    Minister

    Carpenter’s Home Church

    Regent Emeritus

    – Mr. Peter Sumrall

    Businessman

    LeSea Broadcasting, Inc.

    Business Regent

    – Mr. Eldon Thorman Businessman

    Hotel and Restaurant Industry

    Regent Emeritus

    – Mr. Charles Trebilcock

    Businessman

    Kings Co.

    Regent Emeritus

    – Mr. Charles E. Watson

    Businessman/Owner-Car Dealership

    Charlie Watson Ford Lincoln Mercury

    Business Regent

    – Mr. John Whitsitt

    Businessman

    Financial Planning

    Regent Emeritus

    – Ralph Wilkerson

    Minister and President

    Millenium Missions

    Regent Emeritus

    – James E. Winslow, Jr., M.D.

    Medical Physician

    Southern Plains Medical Center

    Regent Emeritus

     
  2. Zac

    October 19, 2007 at 9:57 am

    Considering the circumstances, I think the whole mess is being handled quite well thus far.

     

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